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1. Baker Double Barrel Shotgun Value
2. Baker Double Barrel Shotgun Serial Numbers Lookup
3. Baker Shotgun Serial Numbers

FIREARMS INFORMATION

The following is an excerpt from a Remington 1902 catalog.

N O T I C E

For guidance of customers ordering double gun parts, we give the following information :

25422 They might not be as well-known as some European manufacturers, but there were a number of great American double-barrel shotgun makers in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. These guns remain highly collectible, and many are also fine shooters. The All-American double shotguns. - Baker Model Ithaca Double Guns: 1880-1885: 2447. GUN # Lefever Single Barrel Guns - (Made by Ithaca Gun Co.). Back to the Serial number main.

The Remington Double Gun has been made in six models, known as HAMMER LIFTER ACTION, LIFTER ACTION, MODEL '82, MODEL '83, MODEL '85, AND '87. AND MODEL '89,
many parts of which differ. Parties owning guns can determine their model by comparing their hammers with the following drawings:

HAMMER LIFTER ACTION - LIFTER ACTION - MODEL 1882 - MODEL 1885 AND 1887 - MODEL 1889

The above illustrations taken from an old Remington 1902 parts catalog

REMINGTON DOUBLE BARREL SHOTGUN SERIAL NUMBERS
Courtesy of Roy Gunther, William M. Furnish & Charles G. Semmer as published in THE GUN REPORT, July & August 1991

Remington never used the year of the first production as a model number, however it has since become common practice to do so. The language used here ARE the first year of production for each named type.

M1873 or 'hammer lifter model' used a lever on the tang that lifted up to open the barrels and draw the hammers back to half cock. The lockplate had 3 screws at the rear, made in 10 & 12 gauges.

M1876 or 'lifter model' had the lifter opening the barrels. Hammers were rebounding. First was the recessed hammer noses, & later flat. Four screws at the end of the lockplate, made in 10 & 12 gauges. The 1873 & 1876 were available in shotgun and rifle & shotgun combinations.

M1878 or :heavy duck gun'; lockplate had flat faced hammers, no rudimentary fence at the bottom of the bolster & used a doll's head rib

extension into the frame. First pinned forearms were used, later Deely & Edge latch was used. 10 gauge only.

M1882, for the first time a conventional turning lever to open the barrel was used. Made in 10 & 12 gauges.

M1883 was introduced into the catalogs, but few have been observed. The hammers are different, made in 10 & 12 gauges.

M1885-87, used the same serial numbers as the 1882 model. The hammer was again different. Made in 10, 12 & 16 gauges.

M1889, the last & largest volume made of the hammer guns, & the hammer was again different & significant than all the rest. Made in 10, 12, & 16 gauges.

Other gathered information

Shotguns were evolving fairly quickly during the years E. Remington & Sons were building them with new models appearing every year or two. The early E. Remington & Sons hammer guns were based on the Whitmore designed 'lifter action' to open the guns. The first model was the 1873 also known as the 'hammer lifter' as the locks didn't automatically rebound and protrusions on the side of the slide that moved back between the hammers when the lifter was raised engaged flanges on the sides of the hammers and moved them to half-cock. The next model the 1875 did away with this and featured Hepburn's designed rebounding locks, as did all the later Remington hammer doubles.
More variations of the basic Whitworth design were the Models 1876, 1878 and 1879. The 1879 is the only lifter action Remington that got the new Deeley lever forearm.
The next E. Remington & Sons hammer double was the 1882 with a conventional top lever that pushed to the right. These evolved through the 1883, 1885 and 1887.
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Remington made hammer double barrels from 1874 to 1910. The quick way to different between year models is by hammer shape and serial numbers.
The serial numbers run as follows:
Mode 1874 (Hammer Lifter) 001 to 1,500.

Model 1876 (Lifter Action) 1,501 to 4.125+.

Model 1882/1883 001 to 15,000.
Model 1885 15,001 to 21,000.

Model 1887 30,001 to 36,000.
Model 1889 001 to 250, 401+.
There were seven grades of Model 1889 shotguns made. They were No. 1-steel barrel, pistol grip stock, rubber butt plate and matted to rib, no engraving. No. 2 same except for twist barrel, No. 3 same except for damascus barrel. No. 4 same except for engraving. No. 5 Fine damascus and extra engraving. No. 6 Extra Fine damascus and scroll engraving and No. 7 Superior damascus and extra fine scroll engraving.

M1894, was the first hammerless, made in 10, 12, & 16 gauges. Could have been had in 'ordnance or damascus steel barrels. This model has a Purdey forend fastener (push button type)

M1900, hammerless, made in 12 & 16 gauges. Could have been had in 'ordnance or damascus steel barrels. This model has the snap on Baker type forend fastener.

Differences in Remington model 1894 & 1900 double shotguns.
Courtesy of Terry Deem

The 1894 was more of a precision fit gun & could be had as an engraved version. The 1900 was basically an 'economy' version of the 1894.
Before 1906 both the 1894 & 1900 models had the firing pin made integral on the hammers. Around 1906 Remington made the change to the floating firing pin on both guns. It was a running change so there is no exact serial number.
The best way to tell the two model's apart is by the serial numbers. The model 1894 serial number's start with a (1) and the model 1900 serial number's start with a (3). All have 6 number's in the serial number. So if the serial number start's with a (3) it is a model 1900. Also on the 1894 especially on later gun's sometimes there is a 'P' ahead of the serial number, The 'P' signifies the 1894. On the 1900 sometimes there is a 'Q' ahead of the serial number, the 'Q' signifies the model 1900.
As far as the receiver parts go about the only difference is fit and finish between the 1894 and the 1900.
Another difference is the 1894 has a Purdey forend fastener (push button) and the 1900 has the snap on Baker type forend fastener.
Gun's with flat ribs will be earlier guns, & will usually have the firing pin's as part of the hammer. Also, if either the 1894 or 1900 model has a concave rib (not flat) and /or one screw in the trigger guard (not two) and /or a concave safety it will almost always have the floating firing pin's. The changes to the floating firing pin was around 1906.
Also on both models the 1894 and 1900, there is the 1894 patent date on the forend iron.
For the model 1900, they did away with the point on top of the buttplate and went to a cheaper straighter buttplate.
I have collected Remington model 1894 and 1900 double for over 40 years. I also do repair and restoration on them. Thanks for allowing me to explain.

Terry Deem (Terry.Deem@gepex.ge.com) (sorry, but this e-mail is no longer valid)

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Baker Double Barrel Shotgun Value

Originated 05-17-04 Last updated 01-04-2021
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Ben A. Loving
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Baker Batavia Leader 20 gauge with 28” barrels bored full and modified.This rare little gun is in 98% original condition with 99% vivid case colors, 99% barrel blue and 95% stock varnish. Bakers in 20 gauge are very uncommon – almost rare. When almost perfect one has to resort to saying what isn’t perfect, so: there is a chip out of the tip of the forend, spots of corrosion on the bottom of the trigger guard, and the stock has some minor nicks and blemishes. A better example would be hard to find – a true collector quality gun. __ $1800(pics)

Baker RKEGrade (SN 200498, ca. 1925) 12 ga with 30 inch Krupp steel barrelsbored full and modified. The Baker gun is a true American sidelocklike the L. C. Smith and of similar quality and price. Graded Bakers areinfrequently seen. Both R grade and ejectors are very uncommon. This gunis in very good original condition with most of the original faded casecolors, barrel blue and stock varnish. The straight English type stockhas unusually nice figure and fine 20 lpe checkering and good stock dimensions:LOP – 14” from front trigger to rubber recoil pad; D@C - 1 7/8”; and D@H– 2 1/4”. ___ $1500. (pics)

A.H.Fox Gun Co., Philadelphia, PA

Savage Fox Model B-SE 20 ga with 26” barrels bored IC and Mod, automatic ejectors, single trigger, beavertail forend and raised ventilated rib. This gun is in 99.9% new factory condition. There are a few very very minor handling marks on the stock and a couple of places the varnish has flaked off - a condition that is a function of the kind of finish used. Production 1966 to 1988. A good collector quality gun or nice little shooter. $995 (pics)

IthacaGun Co., Ithaca, NY

Ithaca Grade 5E Single Barrel Trap Gun: This Knick SBT (SN 406925) is in excellent original condition and shows only minor use. It retains much of the original case colors. The engraving and 2 gold inlays are as sharp as the day they were cut. Stock and barrel finish are 98% or better. The 32” ventilated rib barrel is full choke. The Monte Carlo stock (14X1¼ X1¼ X1½) has a factory option adjustable Morgan pad. Last MSRP - $7,500___ $3995 (pics)

New Ithaca Double(NID) Grade FE 12 ga with excellent 30 inch fluid steel barrels. 98%original finish including case colors. Stock has 14 1/4' pull over originalHawkins pad which is still in good shape. SN 4536XX. Early variation withcocking indicators, Deely & Edge forend release and starburst engravingon side and bottom of action. A collector quality gun. ____ $1600 (pics)

Flues Model SpecialField Grade 12 ga with excellent 28 inch 'Smokeless Powder Steel' barrels.Overall very clean and in very good condition: about 30% case colors underheavy patina; stock is excellent with original Ithaca butt plate, 14 ¼”LOP, 2” D@C and 3” D@H; 98% original barrels blue. (SN 351551) ___ $500(pics)

LefeverArms Co., Syracuse, NY

(9074o) Ggrade. 12 ga. (SN 40240) with 30' Damascus bbls choked full and fullwith almost good bores - roughness will clean up - no dents. Gun has beencleaned up and is VG working order. Very good original wood with excellentmonogram butt plate and grip cap has been beautifull refinished and checkeringrecut. No rust or pitting. Good demensions - LOP=14', D@C=1 1/2',D@H=2 3/4'. Even brown barrel pattern. A good solid all original gun . Would restore very nicely. __ $900 (pics)

Parker Shotguns

Parker Single Barrel Trap Gun SB Grade.12 ga with rare 34” barrel. “B” grade single barrel Parkers are very rare. And this one is virtually new with 98% or better original finish:98% case color, 100% wood finish, 100% barrel blue, perfect screws, 99% case color, wood shiny near perfect, vent rib w twin ivory sights - the very best collector quality. Parkers are not noted for well figured stocks but this one is magnificent - dimensions: 14¾ x 1 3/8 x 1½. The only negatives that I can find are: 1” pachmayr pad, forend wood is not as extraordinary as the butt stock, and the case color is slightly faded. It is impossible to find these guns in this sharp and crisp condition. __ $11,500. (pics)

Parker VH Grade 12 gauge restored as new by Oscar Gaddy. This 1 ½ frame gun weighs 6 lbs 14 oz and has 28” Vulcan fluid steel barrels bored .012 (IC) right and .016 (Lt. Mod) left – a good combination for sporting clays or field.Bores are perfect. It is mechanically and cosmetically excellent with very original looking case colors – as only Oscar could do – and satin blue barrels that are better than factory new. The only flaw is a small scratch on the left side of the action. Excellently refinished stock and pointed up checkering. Dimensions are: LOP to original Hawkins pad is 14”, D@C is 1 ½” and D@H is 2 ½”. ____ $3250 (pics)

Remington Model 1900 K Grade 12 ga with 29” fluid steel barrels bored modified and improved cylinder – mint bores. I am convinced these are original 29” barrels. Over all there is about 95% original finish but shows a few handling marks and toning. Slightly faded case colors are about 92% but most remain bright and vivid. Barrel blue remains about 98% with some toning of color. Stock varnish is also 98% with no chips, dents or abrasions. The monogram buttplate is near perfect. About as good as you will ever find in a 110 year gun - absolutely original in every respect. Weight = 7lbs 2 oz. Stock dimensions: 13 ¾”,X 2”X3”. (SN 316505) A true collector quality gun. __ $1600. (pics)

Miscellaneous Makes & Models

Iver Johnson Super Trap.12 ga with 32” vent rib barrels bored full and improved modified. This gun retains 95+% original finish. Action case colors are bright and vivid on each side but the bottom of the action shows some loss but 92% remain over all.100% barrel blue. Trigger guard is drifting brown.Stock and beavertail forend have no cracks, gauges or scratches and sport near 100% original varnish which is crazed due to age. Grip cap is perfect and butt pad is decomposing. Stock dimensions: 14½ x 2³/₈ x 1³/_8. Gun has excellent bores and operates perfectly including ejectors.A collector quality American double barrel trap gun. ___ $1700, (Pics)

Iver Johnson Skeeter 16 gauge. with Selective Automatic Ejectors and beavertail forend. Barrels are 28 inch bored Skeet 1 & 2. Original in every respect and functions perfectly. Action retains 98% deep blue; stock has 92% original varnish (crazed); but the barrels need to be reblued. Bores are excellent. Iver Johnson Skeeters in 16 gauge are rare. This would be a good shooter and addition to your collection. __ $2200. (pics)

Baker Double Barrel Shotgun Serial Numbers Lookup

N R Davis AJAXBoxlock 16 ga with 26” barrels bored full and modified. 95% originalcondition – case colors, blue and varnish. Serial number E1754 (mfg. ca. 1919-1929) Marked “N.R. Davis & Sons/AJAX/Davis-WarnerArms Corp/Norwich, Conn. USA” in 4 lines on left side. Casehardened action.Single bolt through rib extension. Cocks via dog in barrel lump. Blued 16ga 26”fluid steel monoblock barrels are perfect in and out. Coil spring plungerforend latch. Forend, barrels and action marked with serial number – no patentor date. Plain American walnut round knob pistol grip stock varnished with nocheckering. Weight: 6 lbs 11 oz. Dimensions: LOP = 14” over pad; D@C=1 5/8”;D@H = 2 3/4”. This is the best condition Davis I have seen in 40 yearscollecting American double barreled guns. __ $700 (pics)

Baker Shotgun Serial Numbers

Winchester Model 12 12 gawith 26” nickel steel barrel (cut down from 32”) and poly choke. Serial no. 411509 was made in 1925. This gun retains about 70% original finish and is a sound shooter. The gun is tight and operates flawlessly. The butt stock has been nicely refinished, is original length with 14 ¼” LOP, and Winchester butt plate. The barrels have no dents and excellent bores. I shot my first double at quail with this in 1950. It has also taken several deer with slugs or buck shot. -- $250 (pics)

Winchester Model 1230” full choke barrel (used 80%). If you want it also add a $100. Separately it is $150.

1.Have fluid steel barrels
2.Require dealer FFL unless noted as being antiques made 1898 or earlier.